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Dwyer falls 19-14 to Bradenton-Manatee in football Class 7A state semifinal

Friday, December 09, 2011
by Jeff Greer


Dwyer’s Johnnie Dixon reacts after he dropped what would have been a first down within the red zone in the last minute. Panthers lineman Michael Minns consoles him as coach Jack Daniels walks with them back to the Dwyer sideline. (Allen Eyestone / Palm Beach Post)

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BRADENTON - For much of Friday night's Class 7A state semifinal, Dwyer looked dominant. Everything went the Panthers' way.

But penalties and miscues undid Dwyer in a heart-breaking 19-14 loss to Bradenton-Manatee.

It was the second devastating loss in a state semifinal in two years for Dwyer.

"Our kids played their butts off," Dwyer coach Jack Daniels said, "just like they have all year."

Daniels was livid all game with the referees. On at least four occasions, Dwyer had big gains wiped out by penalties. Twice, fumble calls appeared to be missed.

One missed fumble – when it appeared Dwyer tight end Malik Brown had converted a first down and was down – resulted in Manatee's first touchdown.

Another – when a Manatee player caught a pass but lost it after a huge hit – was ruled an incomplete pass.

Both plays hurt.

Every time Dwyer (12-2) appeared to have Manatee (12-2) beaten, Manatee responded.

The Panthers stormed down field and scored the go-ahead touchdown with six minutes to play on an 11-yard Faton Bauta run.

Bauta, who ran 24 times for 168 yards and two touchdowns, gave his team a 14-13 lead.

"He was the best player on the field tonight," Daniels said. "Faton's made more progress in the past six games than any player I've ever coached."

But Manatee countered, driving 63 yards in three minutes to take the lead back. That score didn't come easily.

Staring down third-and-3, Manatee quarterback Cord Sandberg bulldozed his way to a 20-yard touchdown.

That proved to be the game-winner.

Dwyer reached Manatee's 27-yard line, but a dropped fourth-down pass ended Dwyer's drive and hopes for a second state title.

"It's a football game," Dwyer defensive tackle Mike Minns said as he walked off the field. "There's nothing we can do about all that. We had a good year."

It was a heated contest all night, with both teams jawing at each other before the game even started.

Dwyer produced more than 200 yards rushing and converted 17 first downs. The Panthers only punted twice.

But more drives stalled than not.

And it was Manatee that took advantage, winning the turnover battle. The Hurricanes struggled moving the ball on offense, but when they needed to, they did.

Sandberg ran 17 times for 54 yards and a touchdown. Leon Allen had nine carries for 79 yards.

Dwyer's vaunted defense showed up, but the mistakes cost the Panthers their second trip to a state final in three years.

"It's a three-hour bus ride after your kids played their hearts out," Daniels said. "It hurts.

"A lot of people affected the game that don't put in the hours and it's wrong."

User Comments:

wow commented on December 10, 2011 at 12:02 a.m.: report abuse

hilarious, grown men weeping about "sports". pathetic! what a bunch of morons. people die to protect our freedoms overseas and these "men" weep over a ballgame.

DFF commented on December 10, 2011 at 12:11 a.m.: report abuse

Dwyer played their hearts out but were unfortunately robbed by a crew of totally inept officials tonight. Congrats to the players and coaches for a tremendous season we are very proud of our Dwyer Panthers!

Uhm about that commented on December 10, 2011 at 12:16 a.m.: report abuse

Just like the officials favored Dwyer all year? Both teams played there heart out all season and deserve to be where they are but I think it's about time Dwyer recieved the same unfair official calling that other teams have expierenced while playing them!

Jeff commented on December 10, 2011 at 12:17 a.m.: report abuse

Tough, Tough loss for Dwyer. No need to hang heads low. After holding St.Thomas to a mere 3 Points Dwyer could have had a let down. I for one said Manatee would win their Class Championship (check all my predictions in comment section of Dwyer win over St.Thomas). Dwyer is no pushover. The Football Program has made great strides. Consider yourself a Powerhouse, Panther Fans. I look forward to the Future and with the Revamped Districts. New Playoff Rivals have formed. A Fantasy Bowl Matchup with All Class Championship Winners would have to include Dwyer. Jacksonville has its big 4 (Bolles, Fletcher, First Coast, Bartram Trail. Orlando has Edgewater, Dr. Phillips. Tampa has Jefferson, Plant, Armwood. Manatee and Lakeland. Miami Has Central, Northwestern, Columbus, Washington. Miramar and St. Thomas in Broward, and Dwyer in Palm Beach. Florida is a breeding ground for High School Football and is Forever Represented. Its been that way since the 70s. I always followed Boetel and Lancaster they made me a fan of Florida High School Football. Since my High School Days I thought I was the only Fan now there's Hundreds of Thousands. My picks are Plant 20 Miramar 18. Manatee over a great football Team First Coast. Miami Central Upsets Armwood. Norland over Dade-City Pasco. Bolles over Miami Washington. Madison County over Delray Heritage what could be the best game. Good Luck to all Schools the Future is Now.

@ wow commented on December 10, 2011 at 12:36 a.m.: report abuse

Hey wow, you're pathetic. You probably weren't good enough to make any team in high school. You have no idea how much dedication goes into these teams and these players have every right to weep about this game. Just by that scumbag comment of yours we know that you aren't an athlete and never played a sport, because if you were involved in athletics of any level, then you wouldn't be posting that disrespectful comment. And the same men that weep over a ballgame are some of the same men who plan on serving your country for your freedom. You're a sad sad little man and I hope I'm not the only one to degrade you on here. I'm a 3 year varsity football letterman and making a 20+ career in the military and I cried my eyes out when we lost our playoff game. Why? Because we had a passion for it.

jplong commented on December 10, 2011 at 2:07 a.m.: report abuse

Typical comments from Dwyer's head coach. When they win, everything is just super. When they lose, "they were robbed!" Palm Beach Gardens High School has, and has always had, a better football program than its neighbor to the north. The key difference is that it is run by ethical people, not the like the sordid group running Dwyer's program. Take comfort in your namesake drink, Jack, and just shut up! What a bunch of losers!

@wow commented on December 10, 2011 at 2:14 a.m.: report abuse

Shut your mouth! Wish I knew who you were you ignorant, small, and worthless person.

wooord commented on December 10, 2011 at 2:20 a.m.: report abuse

was at the game, was rooting for dwyer but very rarely do I say officials suck and so forth. with that being said, those criminals in striped shirts took a TD from dwyer, gave one to manatee, took 2 fumbles away from dwyer and gave a fumble to manatee, not to mention 2 chicken sh%t personal foul calls that hugely affected the game. the refs should have been lead away in handcuffs and made to apologize to dwyers kids. BTW bauta is a beast, # 34 DE played awesome, and me and # 9 malik brown were tied for amount of tackles made: 0 butkus nada great effort dwyer

wooord commented on December 10, 2011 at 2:20 a.m.: report abuse

was at the game, was rooting for dwyer but very rarely do I say officials suck and so forth. with that being said, those criminals in striped shirts took a TD from dwyer, gave one to manatee, took 2 fumbles away from dwyer and gave a fumble to manatee, not to mention 2 chicken sh%t personal foul calls that hugely affected the game. the refs should have been lead away in handcuffs and made to apologize to dwyers kids. BTW bauta is a beast, # 34 DE played awesome, and me and # 9 malik brown were tied for amount of tackles made: 0 butkus nada great effort dwyer

Muck Everywhere commented on December 10, 2011 at 2:45 a.m.: report abuse

@Jeff! U have always been hard the Glades Central. They have been beaten Dwyers for YEARS! I guess since they have lost to Norland you have toss them to the side. THEY ARE A POWERHOUSE AND WILL ALWAYS BE A POWER HOUSE FOR PALM BEACH COUNTY AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA. They have the BEST RECORD in the state for WINNING AGAINST IN/OUT OF STATE TEAMS. Yes we loss to Norland this year without TWO OF THE MOST TALENT DEFENSE PLAYER IN THE COUNTY/STATE. But i feel like you REALLY DISRESPECTED Glades Central football TEAM!!!! You need to LEARN how to give RESPECT to Glades Central cause they DESERVE IT!!!!

straight up commented on December 10, 2011 at 3:04 a.m.: report abuse

That 3 hour drive sucked. I was at the game and i have to agree with wooord. Faton played the best game i have seen him play all year and came up big for his team. People just love to dig at whatever school loses, especially programs that win. You build a championship program that wins, whether it is basketball, football, baseball etc, your gonna get players wanting to come play for that school. It has been done long before dwyer became a powerhouse. The problem with high school officiating, is you never know what you are going to get. The game goes fast, but the calls that were blown tonight on fumbles and unsportsmanlike calls were a joke. You can call holding on every play if a referee wanted too. Nuff said, i got to get to bed. It was a great game to watch, with two good teams playing. worth the ride and money spent, wish it was a better result though.

refs from H### commented on December 10, 2011 at 3:31 a.m.: report abuse

Good job Dwyer! its hard playing against the refs too. Tonight you played against both.

bystander commented on December 10, 2011 at 3:38 a.m.: report abuse

I was at the game and I don't believe what happen. I am not a Dwyer fan, but I wanted to see a fair game. Tonight was not a game against Dwyer and Manatee. However, it was game against Dwyer and the officials. Ft. Pierce should have won last week againts Manatee and Dwyer WON tonight. You will not win a fair game in Bradenton.

Panther Chick commented on December 10, 2011 at 4:56 a.m.: report abuse

Great job Dwyer Panthers!

Everyone on the team did their best, as they have done all year. So sad when the officials infuse themselves in the process (no sour grapes, just truth...check the tape of the game); how can adults (officials) cheat children (players) and think it is ok, and nothing be done about it. So they get a sorry excuse called into the school but what does this teach young men about working hard and expecting excellence? Dwyer was cheated at Plant, Glenville...and now Manatee; as I noted before...check the tapes as it is obvious!

All those Panther haters...you know you saw the blatant, incorrect calls, you are just glad that it happened to Dwyer as you are not mature enough to allow a quality team to do what they are accustomed to do which is win. Oh well, go on and enjoy being negative, it still wont make your team any better than they are, only hard work and persistence will...which Dwyer players will continue to embody.

On the brighter side...D-Block, keep your heads up because you played your heart out and won the battle but lost the war against the refs! Get some rest as it is back to film work in a few hours....Go Panthers!

RivieraBeachShark commented on December 10, 2011 at 5:37 a.m.: report abuse

DBLOCK!!! Hold your heads up high!!! I witnessed the most impationed game that you have ever played. It's really shameful that some home rivals would just come on this forum and castigate Dwyer, its players and coaches they way they have. The insensitive comments just let's me know that you are full of jealousy and envy. You short-sighted people who wish bad on others will NEVER amount to much because of the negativity embedded in your hearts. It's just plain RAGEDY!!

I don't even have to get into the whole ref thing. Enough people will do that for me. The Manatee Fans need to count their fortunes and make the most of it. DBLOCK will be back next year. Congratulations Panthers for a season that most people didn't expect you to have. It's time for all of the community to come together and support our own. For those of you who have, thank you!! For you others, I won't even say what I think of you.

Tell us Jeff commented on December 10, 2011 at 5:59 a.m.: report abuse

Ok Jeff you were at the game tonight and wrote about it.
The two fumble calls that were seen on TV that were texted to the field after they happened, (Brown was down as shown on replay over and over again and Manatee's player was clearly still standing as the the ball came out & Reffs gave the ball back to Manatee when it should have been turned over to Dwyer) but lets not talk about those that the TV stationed covered lets talk about the touchdowns that were called back for Dwyer and the fact that everytime Dwyer moved the ball there was a phantom call that would bring the ball back and at the end when Manatee was put into scoring position after there was an obvious late hit on the Dwyer LB that was called for unsportsman like conduct as he sat on the ground, threw his hands in the air asking why no call.
I've been around football a long time and that's the first time i've ever seen that.
We all know that the last thing we could call you is a Dwyer fan so please give us your unbias opinion.
I hope you'll give your opinion and not just delete this from the blog because i would really like to know what you think.
What did you see?

Same old Song commented on December 10, 2011 at 6:27 a.m.: report abuse

It's alway's the refs fault... a few years ago it was Tampa Plant, last season it was Armwood, this year Manatee... they hate us, if not for the refs we would have won... give it rest. You're sending a terrible message to your kids, and created a persecution complex that rears it's head in big moments, late in games that matter. How bout taking the loss like a man, and not a cry baby... or better yet... how about doing a better job of having your kids prepared.

Good luck on the recruiting trail!

C.C. commented on December 10, 2011 at 6:36 a.m.: report abuse

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! The Refs stole the game from us! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! People are jealous of us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! We were robbed!! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Did I mention Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Grow up and take your losses like a man... the last three playoff losses were at the hands of the officials? That's an extrordinary ratio... give it rest. Certainly last season's loss had nothing to do with your strategy late in the game. Certainly tonight you probably could have done something wiser to protect your boys from another loss at the hands of the evil refs!

marino commented on December 10, 2011 at 6:49 a.m.: report abuse

To all the whiners, Why do we have young men crying over a football game, why do we accuse the ref's when things don't go our way.
Because we have not taught our children to be good LOOSER's.
When we win we rub our opponents face in it, when we loose we cry like baby's and say it was someone else's fault.
TEACH THESE CRY BABYS AND BLAMERS TO BE REAL MEN! Because when football is over they will go into the real world. They will not take the talent of playing football with them they will only take their character and who and how they act as a person.

pbg commented on December 10, 2011 at 6:56 a.m.: report abuse

HIMS CRYING? DID HIMS HURT HIMSELF???

Horrible commented on December 10, 2011 at 7:25 a.m.: report abuse

I watched the game on brighthouse, . Any Manatee fan who says the refs didn't give them that game is a liar or blind. They should have led those creeps out of the stadium in cuffs. I never saw anything like it in my life. The Refs were either paid off or the worse Refs on the planet gathered together at one game. Dwyer deserved to win that game. No wonder why Manatee is tough to beat at home

football fan commented on December 10, 2011 at 7:31 a.m.: report abuse

My son played high school football over ten years ago and the powerhouse teams were from Manatee back then. I do not think we do as good of a job teaching smash-mouth on the east coast as they do over there. We hate to admit it but hurting your opponent is part of the game.

TJM commented on December 10, 2011 at 7:34 a.m.: report abuse

Let's stop the crying and the excuse making. Sure, these boys are playing a game for fun and passion but it's still just a game. If this player cries now, how is he going to react later in life when something really horrible happens. I'd hate to be around. Does he cry like this after doing bad on a Chemistry test? I doubt it. Let's get our priorities in order and start acting like grown men.

Bull crap commented on December 10, 2011 at 7:44 a.m.: report abuse

Manatee fans you should be ashamed of yourselves for not admitting the obvious biased by the officials by not doing so you are just proving you are familiar with that type homer officiating. I agree with the guy who posted :"No wonder Manatee is tough to beat at home" I think it's terrible that a game like that was given to Manatee by the Refs. Wow that was pathetic and the worse part about it was blog posts by people familiar with Manatee said this would happen before it did. Karma's a 8itch

Cranky Yankee commented on December 10, 2011 at 7:53 a.m.: report abuse

To DFF and others who think like him-you're upset that the officiating went against Dwyer and you blame it on an "inept" officiating crew. I doubt that you would be making as much noise if the officiating was equally "inept" but the calls went in Dwyers favor. Hey folks, there's a reason it's called a GAME. Get some perspective and GET A LIFE.

SamosetDan commented on December 10, 2011 at 8:15 a.m.: report abuse

I don't like to see a game with bad calls. I was in the stands so I don't have the benefit of watching anything on replay. But just a point of interest....it was a penalty against Manatee (I believe it was a 15 yarder) that led to a Palm Beach touchdown that put them ahead.

Damn Straight commented on December 10, 2011 at 8:21 a.m.: report abuse

To all of yous crackin about everyone givin too much attention to these boys and these game - GET OUT OF YOUR BOXER SHORTS AND STEP AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER!

I will say this though, People lose they blame the refs, but in my 63 years on this planet I have never seen the refs so clearly take a game away from one team and give it to another.

Dwyer boys be proud!

rrsrq commented on December 10, 2011 at 8:21 a.m.: report abuse

at the game last night, i live in manatee county. the refs took that game out of the kids hands, not saying Dwyer would have won, but terrible calls, now I see why professional and college football have instant replay. Refs can't make terrible calls and expect the team to react, those persona foul calls "refs shoulda kept the flags in their pocket", there was no ill intent from a reaction. Dwyer keep your head up, great game.

Stat Man commented on December 10, 2011 at 8:27 a.m.: report abuse

Dwyer fans, you got robbed. Welcome to the world of AH football. Each week we battle the other team plus the officiating crew. During out playoff season we have had not 1, not 2, not 3 but 10 TDs called back. Against Chaminade we scored three times in three consecutive plays, all called back. On the fourth try they ran out of penalties to call. Don't care if it's pee wee, high school, college or pro, refs in a big game should be the side show not the main show.

Same ole commented on December 10, 2011 at 8:44 a.m.: report abuse

The post should have it easy writing the artcle about the last Dwyer football game for the year, all you have to do is insert new year and change names of QB and a back. Refs, undisciplined, questionable play calls,penalties, yada yada.............SAME OLE , same ole

Duh commented on December 10, 2011 at 8:46 a.m.: report abuse

Jacks a cry baby! His whole world revolves around that damn football team. It's time to realize you have a wife and kids at home. Don't sweat the small stuff and blame it on others.

Riviera Beach commented on December 10, 2011 at 8:48 a.m.: report abuse

Sounds alot like the Plant game. I hate going to the west coast for playoffs. Jeff great job on the tweets last night. How bad were the refs? From your tweets it seemed like you thought it was pretty bad in the first half. I watch alot of high school football and can't remember a big game having so many personal fouls. Especially in key situations. Anyways, Dwyer has nothing to hang their heads about. Great year and a great team returning next year. To the seniors. Wow, nobody expected this from you guys. You have keep the D Block legend going.

what legend? commented on December 10, 2011 at 8:58 a.m.: report abuse

Riv. Bch you speak of Dwyer ledgend, but it is one of falling short of expectations. Except one year of hired guns Dwyer has really not lived up to the expectations that their roster dictates. Maybe the legends of Military trail north of PGA, sorry Charlie!

D Gilmore commented on December 10, 2011 at 9:09 a.m.: report abuse

This article is a very interesting and extremely biased account of the game. I was at the game last night. I will agree with the statement that everything did seem to go Dwyer's way until the very end. And Bauta was definitely the best player on the field. BUT, by no stretch of the imagination can you claim that Dwyer dominated. In fact, Manatee pretty clearly outplayed them. Dwyer's defense was decent, but Manatee moved the ball well all night. In the first half, they moved it at will. And this discussion about the officiating is absolutely ridiculous. The officiating, without question, was in Dwyer's favor all night long. The first incident Greer cites, the Brown fumble, was no less of a fumble than the goal line fumble that Manatee lost (wiping out a potential TD) which was occurred well after the whistle should've been blown for lack of progress. The second incident Greer cites, when the Manatee player lost the ball after a big hit, should not even been mentioned. It was simply an incomplete pass. Dwyer's offensive line held all night long, and despite the please of the crowd and the Manatee coaching staff, Dwyer was only penalized for it a handful of times, such as when a tackle clearly occurred in the backfield. The personal foul calls against Dwyer were absolutely legit - they played beyond the whistle all night long. Dwyer also benefitted from numerous late hit "no calls," and a questionable roughing the passer call against Bauta that extended their drive and led to their second touchdown. Dwyer is a great team, but Manatee kept them in this game by virtue of their own miscues and poor officiating. That should be the headline.

Future panther...hopefully commented on December 10, 2011 at 9:15 a.m.: report abuse

To Dwyer,
You'll be alright. Just focus on your recruiting needs for next year. Try to reload at he QB and OL position with recruits from all over the county...again.

Nice season, keep your heads up and hit the recruiting trail.

Jimbo commented on December 10, 2011 at 9:31 a.m.: report abuse

All I know is Don Bosco Prep defeated Manatee 22-16 with some very suspect officiating. Good teams overcome all obstacles.

Karma? commented on December 10, 2011 at 9:38 a.m.: report abuse

Ive seen enough HS football to know that those of you whining that Dwyer was cheated are just sore losers. I'm sure the refs were doing their best but lets face it, HS refs are not great and make these mistakes all the time. There is no conspiracy and Dwyer was not "cheated". They had a chance to win and didn't make the plays. Enough said. Congrats on a great season, but the coach should be ashamed for insinuating his kids were cheated. He cheated his kids by giving the, an out and teaching them hat even adults can be sore losers.

dorsey1 commented on December 10, 2011 at 9:42 a.m.: report abuse

Tough loss for the Panthers-Sometimes you have to overcome bad officiating.

Man,Dywer is snakebitten with bad refs-i.e. Glenville Ohio last year.

Great programs always bounce back-see Glades Central.

samosetdan commented on December 10, 2011 at 9:42 a.m.: report abuse

Thanks D Gilmore for your comments. I'm glad to hear from your point of view. I believe you're right. I assume you are from Manatee County. I actually graduated from Southeast. It almost felt kind of odd being in the stands cheering for Manatee, but I like cheering for any home team that makes it this far (unless their playing Southeast...which y'all thoroughly handles us this year)

dorsey1 commented on December 10, 2011 at 9:45 a.m.: report abuse

Duke Johnson is the premier balla in the state!

365 yards on the ground last night with 4 td's in the come from behind win over Palmetto in 5A semi's.

Welcome to the U Duke!

dorsey1 commented on December 10, 2011 at 9:47 a.m.: report abuse

Don't forget about American Heritage-Delray you Palm Beach fans!

Greg Bryant just may be next years Duke Johnson-he's the best Jr. running back in the state!

They are going up against traditional power Madison County in the 3A ship today at 1pm.

Hope they they bring it home!

mike commented on December 10, 2011 at 9:48 a.m.: report abuse

bad calls or not, Dwyer still scored after huge penalties and or converted.1ST downs after penalties .Theres nothing Manatees offense could do about those calls when they're defense was on the field. My point is, Manatee scored when they needed to and cry me a river. Dwyers QB was an amazing athlete last night. Were did he come from? Oh yeah New York, that is why I never heard of him from last year. Another one graduates and ya'll just happen to get a gift from out of state in time. That's a huge coincidence. It must be a coincidence hes committed to Georgia too! Ya'll remind me of that team you beat last week, except you use the magnet school to recruit (bend but not breaking rules if your side stepping them right?) against FHSAA regulations. Fact is, our school our players are all from Manatee we've been watching these kids play since they were in Pop Warner. We actually know the names and families of our athletes and that's more than you can say about your magnet school and Aquinas recruiting crap. oh... And our players probably all but a few are working middle class families who struggle to make a living. So whatever money buys in sports, true heart, commitment, integrity, and purity lives on in the sports at Manatee high school.

Seriously. commented on December 10, 2011 at 9:54 a.m.: report abuse

Really? Yes, some of the calls were bad, but it's HIGH SCHOOL football. It's inevitable with high school refs. The calls weren't even that bad. Manatee played a great game and won. I do think the game was affected a bit by the calls, but the overall outcome wasn't. You're playing Manatee, a 100-year-old school that's covered with tradition. With the entire county (and more) behind them, things like this are going to happen even though they shouldn't. But Manatee won. Respect that. Those boys won the game, they deserve another chance at states.

Hurricane Fan commented on December 10, 2011 at 10:01 a.m.: report abuse

I am happy the Hurricanes won, but as anyone watching that game on t.v. With replays you will clearly see that Dwyer had many incorrect calls. It is truly a shame that the Refs are so one sided at some of these games especially Playoff Games. To the Referees......how will we ever know who really is the best and truly deserves to be king of the mountain if you don't stop fixing these games? To some of you idiots commenting about it's little boys games, etc. These football programs require so much from these players. Everyday practice, holiday practice, Saturday film....etc. I bet most of you making these comments are dedicated to nothing.
Embarrassed Hurricane Fan

oldman commented on December 10, 2011 at 10:04 a.m.: report abuse

Dwyer, a great team over the years, sometimes through recruiting--(WHERE did malik brown play last year, or even jermaine morreria years ago) has had great success. However, when they lose a tight game, it is always the officials according to their coach. I don't remember any bad officiating when they lost a state championship 77-6 a couple years back or when Tharp's gators beat them each and every time they played including playoffs. Those losses were simply due to way better coaching jobs by the other teams.

How about teaching the student athletes about adversity, not pointing fingers.

For next season, just steal players where you can and just win baby--after all you are a machine right??? Maybe you can recruit officials too. ----LOL

Everything aside, congrats to the players & coaches on a great year.

Riviera Beach commented on December 10, 2011 at 10:11 a.m.: report abuse

Wow some serious hateration going on. Dwyer recruits from all over the county? Almost all these boys are from Riviera Beach. Most of these boys grew up playing together as well. Besides alot of Manattee boys are from Palmetto. Similar situation. As far as underachieve. Your Crazy!!! Manatee is 16th in the country. They were favored to win. Same with STA last week. Last year Armwood was number one in the state and favored at home. Three years ago Booker T. was favored and also Plant. Please know what the heck your talking about before typing such nonsense. This years Dwyer team definitly overacheieved. Noboby was giving them any credit until they beat STA last week. These boys worked their but off and can play with any team in the nation. D BLOCK will be better next year. This was a rebuilding year. To Faton, it has been a pleasure watching you play. It wasn't easy coming in after Jacoby (the best qb in PBC history) and having to win over the fans and teammates. This kid is a winner and that is why he should be compared to Tebow.

tom commented on December 10, 2011 at 10:14 a.m.: report abuse

When Dwyer played in Columbus, Ohio last year against Cleveland Glenville, the refs made sure the game turned out Glenville's way. The ending of that game was shameful and disgraceful. The way coach Daniels sounds, he's hasn't forgotten that espisode. In the long run, the refs in that game didn't do the Glenville players any life's favors either. Refs can and do fix games. We just don't know which ones.(Except for the Glenville game).

mike commented on December 10, 2011 at 10:19 a.m.: report abuse

Palmetto is in Manatee county, Manatee county is a very small county and Bradenton and Palmetto are less than a mile apart. Palmetto hosted a semifinal last night losing on the last play 35-28, manatee and palmetto are like big brother little brother.

RivieraBeachShark commented on December 10, 2011 at 10:26 a.m.: report abuse

I am so sick of people accusing Coach Daniels of blaming the referees. His only quote in the article was:

"It's a three-hour bus ride after your kids played their hearts out," Daniels said. "It hurts. "A lot of people affected the game that don't put in the hours and it's wrong."

That isn't exactly crying or blaming the refs. Any coach has had to deal with questionble calls would feel the same. He has a right to his opinion just like any of your bloggers.

Observer commented on December 10, 2011 at 10:31 a.m.: report abuse

I bet most of you making these comments about "don't blame the Refs" didn't watch the game on television(so you could see the replays) or weren't there in person - your just running your mouth. I guarantee that if it was one of your kids out there that busted their butts all year long..... You'd be pi$$Ed off too! No matter what team is playing the Refs shouldn't be biased it is simply wrong. Yes it happens all the time but when it happens to "your team" you have every right to be upset!!

@oldman commented on December 10, 2011 at 10:36 a.m.: report abuse

Malik Brown was not recruited. He just moved with his father, oldman. Write things that you know, and stop guessing. As a straight "A "student, who cares where he played last year, its where he's going in life. The football season is over and this kid is already at basketball practice this morning. Great player, keep up the good work.

Riviera Beach commented on December 10, 2011 at 10:38 a.m.: report abuse

Shark, what was your take on the game?

RivieraBeachShark commented on December 10, 2011 at 10:39 a.m.: report abuse

For clarification: I was referring to the quotation that the "haters" are attributing to Coach Daniels blaming the refs for the loss.

RivieraBeachShark commented on December 10, 2011 at 10:50 a.m.: report abuse

@RivieraBeach:

My take is much like Mike Minns. "It's a football game," Dwyer defensive tackle Mike Minns said as he walked off the field. "There's nothing we can do about all that. We had a good year."

Am I livid about the calls? Heck yeah... I knew going into that environment, there would be some home cooking.. just didn't think it would be as blatant as it was. Was it like Glenville? pretty much. The calls in this game were spread out, but in Ohio, they made all those calls in succession. So, it definitely had an influence the outcome. Even after all that, we still coulda won. Futon, got shaken up, had to come out on the 4th and 5 play. Dixon dropped the catchable Puyol pass and that is just football. We'll be back....

RivieraBeachShark commented on December 10, 2011 at 10:57 a.m.: report abuse

btw... on Dwyer's last offensive play, Bobby had 2 open. He also had one in the short flats on the side of the field he rotated to that would probably gone to inside the 10 upon reception.

Watchdog commented on December 10, 2011 at 10:57 a.m.: report abuse

Dwyer? Isn't that the team stacked with players that have no business attending that school. The kids don't belong there and live outside the schools district. I guess cheaters don't always come out on top.

Makes you go, Ummmm commented on December 10, 2011 at 10:59 a.m.: report abuse

@ Muck Everywhere' I agree 100% with your comment and personally I don't see how Jeff has the audacity to overlook Glades Central as a powerhouse. When it comes to that Title, WE set the stage and are the "Measuring Stick" that people use to define their talent and greatness. Wow, just absolutely amazed at Jeff's comment, I thought you at least give credit where it's due.

RivieraBeachShark commented on December 10, 2011 at 11:11 a.m.: report abuse

To my Brothers and Sisters from the Glades:

I don't believe that Jeff intended to slight or overlook Glades Central. I and most other sensible people know that when it comes to football GC is the measuring stick around here. I know that both you and Dwyer will be back stronger than ever. Please don't be offended everytime someone in the media don't give you the public recognition that you deserve. Looking forward to next season....

Your team commented on December 10, 2011 at 11:12 a.m.: report abuse

People have their teams that they cheer for and this also leads to the fact that people are going to hope certain teams lose and their is nothing you can do about that.
Dwyer, Glades Central, & American Heratiage are the teams in Palm Beach county that people either love or they hate, so when those teams lose there are going to be a group of people that rejoice.
No matter how crazy they look.
Everyone is intitled to their opinion and as you can see, most people don't have a problem sharing it and there's nothing wrong with that but some of this stuff is just hate.
Wow!!
Some of this stuff is funny to read Lol!!!
Some of you guys need to take a deep breath!!!
Ha Ha Ha! Some of you guys are crazy

be atch commented on December 10, 2011 at 11:33 a.m.: report abuse

whats the big deal about malik brown transferring, he was casper the ghost last nite, invisible, anyone notice puyol had crap running down his leg all nite. the call on batten was call of the game, what did he say? refs were horrible

Performance Athletic commented on December 10, 2011 at 11:44 a.m.: report abuse

First of all for all those of you who want to complain about officiating please understand that when you get to this point in the season the officiating crews are not decided upon by either team, they are selected by the FHSAA. Bad calls in the opinion of spectators in the stands or at home on tv and even coaches on the side lines are apart of the game. Bad calls are going to happen for you and against you and the teams that are able to deal with that adversity and emotion are the ones that will most often times be the most successful over the long haul of a 15 game season if they are fortunate to advance to the championship game. Manatee could have let the loss to Don Bosco Prep out of New Jersey put them in a down spirl because many could claim poor officiating cost them a win against the now number one high school team in the nation but they responded by finding a way to win every game since to teams from the state of Florida. The Canes deserve to be playing for the state championship this Friday in Otown and are poised to bring yet another state championship back to B-town. GO CANES GO - ROCK YOU LIKE A HURRICANE -

MOVE ON commented on December 10, 2011 at 11:52 a.m.: report abuse

I saw bad calls on both sides, to be truthful. One team continued to play on while the other one let it effect them. Manatee should have won by more but calls kept the game in check. Dwyer had its chance to overcome and they didn't. Manatee worked thru the adversity and came out on top. Refs did not factor into the last drive that Manatee mounted. The defense gave up a td by a good play by Manatee's QB. Good teams find ways to win thru adversity. This is when real coaching is needed. I have watched some of Dwyers home games and other teams can say the same thing about officiating. Dwyer has gotten away with alot of know calls and questiable calls all year. Late hits, holding, fumbles ect. Last night this showed up and they folded. Not blaming the kids but if you have gotten away with certain things all year and the coaching staff doesn't work to clean it up, this is the results when you play at the big dance. Home cooking as people have refer to has been apart of the game since it was concieved. The better team won last night no matter what people think by working thru adversity. I really think if Manatee had played to their level from what I have seen in previous games this would not be a hot topic. GREAT GAME LAST NIGHT, MOVE ON!

Phillip Taylor commented on December 10, 2011 at 11:59 a.m.: report abuse

If you look at the television replay of the fumbles they ran it over and over and you could not tell if it was a fumble or not. According to one of the Manatee coaches the two unsportsmanlike calls were because the Dwyer players were dropping F Bombs on the officials and the Manatee players. Easy to blame the refs when you lose. Maybe you should control your players and not let them act like thugs.

D Gilmore commented on December 10, 2011 at 12:12 p.m.: report abuse

@ MOVE ON. Amen. You are exactly right. See my earlier post. Blaming the officiating is absolute nonsense. Dwyer had the officiating benefitting them most of the night with repeated no calls for holding, lining up in the neutral zone, and late hits. They were overly agressive and frankly, undisciplined, most of the night and ultimately paid for it. The Manatee miscues (2 missed FG's, missed extra pt, and controversial goalline fumble) and officiating were the only reason Dwyer stayed in this game.

Finally some sense! commented on December 10, 2011 at 12:15 p.m.: report abuse

To build on some of the few sensible comments towards the end:
1. the idea of 'homecooking' is suspect at best. As Performance Athletic pointed out, these officials are selected by the FHSAA as the best of the best. Furthermore, playoff officials are not allowed to ref teams from their home area (e.g., Palm Beach refs can't ref Palm Beach teams during the playoffs). So the idea that this was a bunch of local Bradenton good ol' boys making calls for the hometown team is simply not correct.

2. every game features calls that go against both teams- that's the nature of the game. Many seem outrageous from the stands, but that's because we're reacting as biased fans who aren't in the thick of the action, who didn't hear the three previous warnings the refs gave the previous player, or see the whole action. To imagine that Dwyer somehow played a perfect game and that all these huge calls went against WTD with none going against Manatee is the epitome of close-minded ignorance. Good teams adjust to the officiating and play through it; bad teams complain about the calls that didn't go their way (while ignoring all the calls that did).

I'm disappointed Dwyer lost, but in all this haste to blame the officials I think we're sending a terrible message to the kids about what it means to be a good sport, gracious in both victory and defeat.

Why so much hate? commented on December 10, 2011 at 12:26 p.m.: report abuse

As you can see Dwyer,Palm Beach Gardens, Royal Palm, Palm Beach Central, Seminole Ridge and Glade Central when you loss, you going to have "HATERS". Each week of the playoffs when a team was eliminated, we read the blogs full of hate for that week. No team is exempt.

Manatee fan commented on December 10, 2011 at 12:30 p.m.: report abuse

I will agree Dwyer was hit with some questionable calls. The fumbles could have gone either way but it this case they both went Manatee's way. It happens. As for the holdings, Dwyer was holding all night, I saw at least 2 plays where a Manatee D-lineman was tackled from behind in the Dwyer backfield. I'm not saying it wasn't a little fishy that holding just happend to be called on several big plays but I think it may have been that the officials were letting it go on unless the hold effected a big play. (just an opinion on what I saw).

Anyway last week it was Manatee that was on the bad side of questionable officiating but still had what it took to win. Sometimes you just have to be good enough to beat both the team you are playing and a few questionable calls.

Acording to a Manatee coach commented on December 10, 2011 at 12:38 p.m.: report abuse

According to the Manatee coach??
Manatee's kids were cursing all night.
Bad calls are a part of the game and that's why they usually equal out.
Last year at Armwood there were bad call but they were bad calls both ways, no big deal Dwyer lost that game.
Last night!!!
You'd have to be crazy to think that wasn't unusual the amount of bad calls that went Dwyers way.
There was holding last night on every play,,,,,both sides of the ball.
Manatee had a good team but had those had calls been equal, they would have lost.
There was a camera crew filming that game last night and I asked him did he do all of Manatee's games and he said that they did the entire area.
I asked was it alway like this and his exact words were, Let's just say they seem to get a lot of favorable calls"
You can say what you want, that was one of their people.

Manateefan commented on December 10, 2011 at 12:44 p.m.: report abuse

I was at the game last night. The comments that PBG Dwyer lost because of the refs is comical. You lost because you had never encountered a defense like Manatee's. I went to the game expecting to see Dwyer with the best defense in the state and honestly - they were the third best defense Manatee had faced all year. NJ Don Bosco and MD Good Counsel were head and shoulders better than Dwyer - I attended all games. Manatee moved up and down the field virtually at will and if it hadn't been for a couple of unusual Manatee miscues, fumble, missed field goals, missed extra point - it might have been a Manatee blow out. Another key difference was that Dwyer might have been the most undisciplined team i have seen all year - note to coaches and players - when things don't go your way you can't take cheap shots at the opponents in front of the refes. It was great - like spoiled children who didn't get their way - the PBG Dwyer players would lash out - costing them again 15 yard penalities. One very positive note, your QB might have been the best I have ever seen - a true competitor - i thought he single handledly was going to will Dwyer to victory ala Tim Tebow. One final note, the entire defensive front and 4 others on defense will be back for Manatee as well as the Manatee QB, all but one of the offensive line as well as the leading receiver...so we might meet again next year.

@manateefan commented on December 10, 2011 at 12:51 p.m.: report abuse

very true manateefan, sucks for dwyer all they ever do is blame someone else when they lose. its never their fault! ha, u lost! time to hang up the pads. great season, but u didnt accomplish ur goal of states. better start recruiting again. because manatee and aquinas will get even better.

RivieraBteachShark commented on December 10, 2011 at 1:10 p.m.: report abuse

Listen Dwyer Haters:

The only people on this blog blaming the refs are the fans, both Manatee and Dwyer fans alike. The players aren't doing it although they are undoubtedly feeling it. At least they haven't been quoted doing so. You can bet your bottom dollar that if they had, it would have been printed in the paper. Dwyer players knew or should have known what they were facing coming in this game. Dude a few posts said that FHSSAA picks the refs and that is true. But they aren't coming from afar either. They usually come from a neighboring county, so most likely they were from Hillsborough or Sarasota County. That is "home" enough for me.

In the heat of battle, some of the players lost their cool and hurt their team by getting penalized. So just like the Dwyer haters are sick of hearing the fans complaining about the refs cheating, I'm sick of hearing your complaints about fan assertions and opinions that they are rightfully entitled to make. That has been the role of fan(atics) for all of sports eternity. So, a lot of energy is being wasted right now making expressions about things that will not change the outcome of last night. Enough already.. let it die..

As a Dwyer fan, I am now focusing on the basketball season and none of you will hear / read another peep from me about Dwyer football.

Phillip Taylor commented on December 10, 2011 at 1:11 p.m.: report abuse

Very true. I was at the 40 yard line home side and there were so many close calls it was hard to see even on replay. To blame the refs is a joke. On the last play Dwyer had on 4th and 5 the ball was thrown right between the numbers and the kid dropped it. I guess that was the refs fault to. Quit whining.

RivieraBeachShark commented on December 10, 2011 at 1:13 p.m.: report abuse

Congratulations to Bradenton Manatee on your win. I hope you win it all....

Riviera Beach commented on December 10, 2011 at 1:51 p.m.: report abuse

Well said Shark, you always want the team that beat you to bring it home. Regardless of what anyone says, this team overacheieved this season. Shoot people thought they would lose to ATL and RPB. Terrific season.

CanesFan commented on December 10, 2011 at 2:20 p.m.: report abuse

As a Canes fan it was clear early on that even the Dwyer "fans" are used to blaming the officials for their mistakes, when a call made against Dwyer resulted in a chorus of boos right from the start, I knew then their mentality. I mean, their kids couldn't have made that mistake. Both teams made them but weren't always called for it. Here is a good example: Manatee's punter was knocked to the ground and there was no call. Roughing the passer? Yeah, it was a rough tackle. So is the game. Maybe Dwyer thinks that there should have been a "they hurt our QB" call made in the fourth qtr. Then they tried to keep him in though the rule states otherwise. I can't blame them for that. He "was the team". How many years has he been at Dwyer?
Where will Dwyer's stars come from next year? It seems like they have to be stars before they come there. It must be hard competing with STA for players. Canes future stars will come from down the street or over on the next block. Yeah, some might even come from one of those local "football factory" towns like Samoset, Ellenton, Parrish, or even Palmetto (who has their own state caliber team) due to districting or district school choice. Hey Jack - have another Daniels or two - you'll feel better.

Jeff commented on December 10, 2011 at 2:22 p.m.: report abuse

To All the Glades-Central Fans yes I missed including your Excellent Football Program. In my post if you notice I was mentioning Bigger Schools by Class. So here's my Praise and sorry I left you out. With that said Cocoa, Madison County and I can name a few more deserve the Praise Powerhouse. Glades Central moved up just this year from 2A. Cocoa has been in the way the last few years for Central. Plus you can't forget that winning streak. I also mentioned new Rivals and Norland replaces Cocoa. I also know that BG Central plays the Bigger Schools and WINS. SO heres your RESPECT.

Riviera Beach commented on December 10, 2011 at 2:34 p.m.: report abuse

Is it just me or are the Manatee fans some of the biggiest jerks.

Canesfan commented on December 10, 2011 at 2:42 p.m.: report abuse

Riviera Beach - It is you and all the other whiners from Dwyer. Look at the number of posts - most are from whiners not winners. Winners are always jerks to losers.

robocopa7 commented on December 10, 2011 at 2:55 p.m.: report abuse

No shame in falling to Manatee as they are the best coached team in the state.

@wow commented on December 10, 2011 at 3:18 p.m.: report abuse

true but ... if you were to train for something all year and fell short after you put your blood sweat and tears in it you would be in tears as well

wow commented on December 10, 2011 at 3:21 p.m.: report abuse

to all the kids out there, i have some bad news for you. adults lavish attention on you because they are LOSERS obsessed with sports. the MOMENT you leave school, unless you make a Division 1 college team (which 97% of you won't) these same "adults" will abuse you when you look for a job, and try and make a life for yourself. you're being used, duped, suckered and bamboozled.

wow commented on December 10, 2011 at 3:21 p.m.: report abuse

to all the kids out there, i have some bad news for you. adults lavish attention on you because they are LOSERS obsessed with sports. the MOMENT you leave school, unless you make a Division 1 college team (which 97% of you won't) these same "adults" will abuse you when you look for a job, and try and make a life for yourself. you're being used, duped, suckered and bamboozled.

Jeff commented on December 10, 2011 at 3:28 p.m.: report abuse

I will be First to admit my pick was wrong. American Heritage lost to BGC. Redemption for the Stallions just rolled over Madison. Bryant only a JR. is a Beast. So BGC Fans you beat a Classifcation Champion and Heritage deserves Powerhouse Status.

RivieraBeachShark commented on December 10, 2011 at 3:52 p.m.: report abuse

"Jeff" I hope you are not Jeff Greer. I mean if you are, I am totally surprised at the condescending way you are expressing praise and RESPECT for Glades Central football. I just hope and believe that you (JEFF in the most recent posts) is an imposter.

Tim V commented on December 10, 2011 at 4:01 p.m.: report abuse

Was at the game sitting at 50 yard line, right in front of where M. Brown from Dwyer made a reception, picking up a 1st down, was clearly tackled, down, play over. No, that play is not over when the receiver is tackled, clearly down, so Manatee picks the ball up and goes the distance for a TD. GAME CHANGING PLAY, AFFECTED BY OFFICIALS.

A few bad calls can happen. This was the whole game and at the key moments. A reasonable person would expect that experienced officials know they are expected to officiate the game, not affect or help determine the outcome. Let the players who bust their tails all year as a team to achieve their goals decide the outcome. FHSAA should monitor officials bank accounts for non typical large deposits for 12 months prior to and 12 month's after they officiate big games. For those who think that is beyond the realm of possibility, wake up. The obscenely bad officiating was so pervasive, beyond incompetence, that if it wasn't for money, then it had to be related to locational preference. I.E., officials from FL west coast locations. If that is the case, then bring top HS officials from out of state.

Dwyer stops Manatee on a key 3rd down, bringing up a 4th and long late in the 4th Qtr. It appeared that a Manatee player hit Dwyer's Batten late next to the pile. As Batten is falling to the ground he simply puts his arms out, a common act when someone is knocked down clearly after the play is over. Ref throws a flag. The crowd is expecting a late hit call on Manatee, but no, the call is unsportsmanlike conduct on Dwyer. HORRENDOUS CALL, AFFECTS OUTCOME OF GAME.

Bauta is hurt on 3rd down on last drive, Dwyer coaches call a timeout. My understanding is if team calls a timeout, the player does not have to come out. If that is the rule, then this call AFFECTED THE OUTCOME ALSO.

Would have to see some of the other calls that appears blatantly bad on tape to comment further. It did seem a flag was pulled either late in the play or in an area away from the play when Dwyer's big plays repeatedly got called back.

Bauta rushes for 168. Dwyer punts 2 X all game. A hard fought game. Both teams played all out leaving it all on the field. Unfortunate the adults officiating couldn't get out of the way and let the kids determine the outcome.

To all the Dwyer haters with shouts of recruiting violations, with all the scrutiny the program, Coach Daniels and the program has received, if they were committing violations they would be cited. Until such time, be kind enough to give the coaches and players who work so hard credit for building a program in the thick of it each year.

Panther Pride may be wounded, but as sure as the sun will rise, the Dwyer Panthers will be back. Thanks to all the coaches and players from both programs for delivering a tremendous effort, and for all your true hard work to get there.

MHS Fan commented on December 10, 2011 at 4:20 p.m.: report abuse

I watched the game and was very impressed with the Dwyer QB! Very impressive.

I agree, the refs sucked, but the calls (and some non-calls) went both ways. That 1 PF call was a bs call on our last possession, which kept alive our drive.

As for those negatively commenting about Johnny Dixon crying, you people have no idea what we athletes go thru to win for our team, our community, and for ourselves. I will take a team full of Johnny Dixons any day, as I know he cares about winning and doing his very best!!

mike commented on December 10, 2011 at 4:27 p.m.: report abuse

who the gets a D I QB from out of state just in time for Florida class 7A football for their senior year? A little too convenient, unless you didn't want the kicker as the solid starter going into last years off season. looks like you knew what you needed and went out and found it. coincidence or not, its not breaking rules. but its not the norm.

Jeff commented on December 10, 2011 at 5:19 p.m.: report abuse

I praised Dwyer for win over favored St. Thomas. Correctly said Manatee would get past the Panthers. I understand what its like not to get calls that go your way. I am a Fan and like to express that feelings of hurt are real. I Posted my thoughts regarding Florida as breeding ground. Earlier I mentioned the Powerhouse schools all around the State. One Fan said I left out BGC as Powerhouse. Palm Beach has 4 Powerhouse Teams when I just stated Dwyer. I just watched Heritage romp over Madison. I follow the Teams each year all around the State. I have no favorite and don't debunk any Football Squad. I just like the Competetion and efforts the kids deliver.

Common Sense commented on December 10, 2011 at 5:49 p.m.: report abuse

People move from up north to FL in great numbers.. If you had a son who was a very good football player getting attention as a Junior from Division I schools and you decided as a family to move to FL from NY, which is a no brainer if you can make sense of it professionally as a parent/provider, it make sense that you would choose to move to an area with good schools and locate in an area with a very good school with a very good football program and many good housing choices. Last time I checked, our country is a free one and people can choose to live wherever they want. Why criticize a family and parents and a school for making a smart choice.

stop crying commented on December 10, 2011 at 5:58 p.m.: report abuse

From what i am reading its a shame that you all have nothing better to write about. Blame the REFS, Blame the REFS, how sad. Both of teams were outstanding and it was a outstanding game to watch for a high school football fan. Both teams laid it all out and left nothing on the field but there sweet. Some one had to win and one had to loose. The refs from this game came out of Lake County, Fl. Not near Manatee, not near WPB, but near the central part of the state. I seen games were refs will let teams play and seen alot were refs just want to be part of a game. Last nite refs wanted to be part of a game, on both sides. Manatee had a interference call in the endzone on 3rd goal from the 9th. Gave WPB new life from the 4 and they scored a TD. instead of lining up for a FG. Also WPB had a personal foul givin to them that kept a drive going to score there second TD. Now Manatee had a unsportmanship call for them that help them score on there last TD also. 2 Plays that get ??? was a non fumble agaist Manatee and a fumble that was not called. They one play was correct it was not a fumble, the REFs did a great job on getting all together at midfield and talked it over, you dont see that alot in high school football. The other I can say pretty clear he did fumble the ball. But that play did not cost WPB the game. it is part of a game. From watching the game, if you ask me WPB was not called for holding # 55 more then enough, they tackeled him, held him, jumped on his back, and did everything they could to keep that boy out of the back field. The 1st Manatee TD was a correct call, the reciever got stripped of the ball, pulled it right out of his hands. I hate to see a coach from the loosing team, cry about the refs cost us a game, its not fair to the kids that played that game. Sorry that one team had to come up on the short end of a night like this, Its game like these that make the state of Florida # 1 in high school football, Dryer players be proud and dont hang your head down. you all had a great year, and i hope to see you all again next year in the same position of this year.

Open Your Eyes commented on December 10, 2011 at 6:08 p.m.: report abuse

Don't know what game u were watching "Stop Crying". OBvious who u were rooting for. Everyone I saw and heard leaving the game saw the same thing, the refs gave the game to Manatee. Just recognize the truth....

Just a Fan commented on December 10, 2011 at 6:24 p.m.: report abuse

Wow alot of posts. wasn't even the Championship Game. Good game tonight Bolles vs Washington 7pm.

stop crying commented on December 10, 2011 at 6:28 p.m.: report abuse

See here is another one. OPEN YOUR EYES. One more call. what about the the punter from Manatee that was torched to the ground. no penalty on that play. and yes OPEN YOUR EYES. PLEASE DO THAT FOR YOURSELF. yes leaving the game from the Dryer side, thats all you would hear. LETS JUST BLAME IT ON THE REFS, WE GOT NOTHING ELSE TO SAY, BLAME IT ON THE REFS. DO YOURSELF A FAVOR. WHY DONT YOU CALL FHSAA AND TELL THEM THAT THE REFS GAVE MANATEE THE GAME. HERE IS THE # TO CALL 352-372-9551. I HOPE THEY CAN PROTEST THIS GAME AND LET THE 2 TEAMS PLAY AGAIN.

@ wow's first comment commented on December 10, 2011 at 6:38 p.m.: report abuse

freedoms? I don't know if you watch the news or not, but those "freedoms" are slowly dwindling away....but that's besides the point.

Dwyer had a fantastic year.

sportsfan61 commented on December 10, 2011 at 7:45 p.m.: report abuse

@ Manateefan

WOW you only give defensive credit to Ranked teams!!!!! Last Week FP Central held your offense from scoring any touchdowns. Looks like you squeaked by another week. Can't wait to see you again next year except after we beat you we will show much more class

By the Way FPC defense only loses 2 Seniors. You will rspect them next year

doc from new york commented on December 10, 2011 at 7:55 p.m.: report abuse

let us take our hats off to the two teams and applaud all the positives of this hard fought game!!! By doing this you will make the game an achievement of your lives to look back on in the years to come!
By the the way , i am yery proud of faton bauta, i had called him the tim tebow of high school football four years ago in new york! Faton is a team player,a hard worker,continues to learn,and wants to learn!! As a coach - teacher he represents my VALUE as a teacher! i am proud to have been part ,if only small,of his developement on and off the Field.

RivieraBeachShark commented on December 10, 2011 at 8:01 p.m.: report abuse

Map of Lake County Florida: www.egr.lakecountyfl.gov/pdfs/lake_county_florida_map.pdf

Looks pretty close to Manatee County to me.

peter mckenzie commented on December 10, 2011 at 8:09 p.m.: report abuse

The football program at Dwyer has "thumbed its collective nose" at recruiting rules for more than a decade, in order to get the most talented players on its varsity football team. With a coaching staff as corrupt as that led by Jack Daniels, and a schoo administration (actually, administrations) that is willing to close its eyes to the obvious, it is hard to feel sorry when Dwyer loses in the playoffs. Perhaps the poor officiating is just the "yang" of Dwyer's "ying" recruiting violations.

Really? commented on December 10, 2011 at 8:17 p.m.: report abuse

Not one person should even comment on the officiating unless they watched the actual footage on the instant replay. I saw it in person and on the TV. If there was reviews in high school (not that i want that) Dwyer would have won.

Way too many posts on this... people really need to get their own lives. (The random negativity is out of hand) I want Palm Beach County's players to go far...not just Dwyer. Big picture thinker here

State Football Official commented on December 10, 2011 at 9:03 p.m.: report abuse

In reference to all the posts above about the referees, let me chime in. I will remain anonymous, as officials are not supposed to make any comments to the press - but I will admit to being a Palm Beach County Football Official for many years. Additionally, I did not see the game, so I am not intending to comment on the actual officiating in this game. These are just smelly thoughts so everyone is working in real facts:

Playoff officials at this stage are selected specifically by the FHSAA, and are supposed to be the best officials in whatever Association has been selected to work the game;

These officials have probably only worked about 4 games together as a 7-man crew, as this is nit ther regular crew all year;

The officials working the game are from another county in the state, and generally not too close but not too far away (from Palm Beach, we regularly work games as fas Fort Myers);

The officials are working this game for $71 and the thril of being at the top of their hobby -- yes, hobby! None of us are "professionals" at this relying upon this for an income. Furthermore, despite th comments above, none of us are getting "paid off" or benefitting from working the games; and

Most of us are middle-age men who go out on the football field because we want to have fun and enjoy working with the kids. We don't go out on the field caring who wins or loses, and we don't officiate to "favor" anyone.

Do bad calls happen - sure! Are they on purpose - no way! Is it because we're doing out best and hoping to get it right - absolutely!

So for those of you blaming the refs - you can keep going if you want. But in reality, we're just another part of the game that has to be accepted - win or lose.

-- A Football Official

P.S. - And as to the comments about the unsportsmanlike calls and whether they should be ignored - the officials are harped on by the FHSAA that we are to never ignore two things - safety issues and unsportsmanlike conduct. Every school knows this and deas with it/ learns from it all year long. So I don't care what the conditions are, if a team is flagged for unsportsmanlike, they no doubt earned it and should have known better and showed better self control. Good news is that this is only a football game, and maybe the lessons learned will pay off later in life!

Good luck to Manatee next week, and to Dwyer next year. I look forward to seeing the young men from Dwyer on the fields in September 2012!

MHS Fan commented on December 10, 2011 at 10:05 p.m.: report abuse

Excellent post State Football Official.

$71 per game to get this type of criticism does not seem worth it, so your point about wanting to have fun and enjoy working with the kids is well taken.

What are your thoughts on instant replay for the playoffs?

Performance Athletic commented on December 10, 2011 at 10:06 p.m.: report abuse

It is obvious that many of the comments that are still being posted relative to the "poor officiating" is just a way to help ease the pain of losing. No athlete, coach or fan likes to lose but at some point in time you will experience it and it hurts but the pain of losing also builds character - unfortunately by your posts i am not seeing it in this case from the majority of the posts still complaining about the refs from most likely east coasters. BTW Lake County is about 2.5 hours from Manatee to the north and how idiotic to think that any of those guys would take money to blow calls are you out of your mind or just from Palm Beach County??? Dwyer is a very good high school football team and may very well be back in the state playoffs but without their Tebow-like signal caller they are a pretty ordinary team that at least two other Manatee County teams would handle (i.e. Palmetto and Bradenton - Southeast) They were a formidable opponent but quite honestly the Canes east coast rival still resides in Lauderdale (STA) so put that in your pipe.
I was on the field after the game and the Dwyer QB seemed to be mature beyond his years not only physically but mentally - agree with comments above this kid is very special and should be exciting to watch on Saturday's. Hope he stays healthy and makes good choices on and off the field.- he is very exciting to watch! Would not be surprised if Urban did not try to get into his living room and change his mind. Hope he stays in the south though... i guess it dosn't really matter who the Canes play from Palm Beach, Broward or Dade because for any of them their quest for a state championship has to go thru B-town and the Canes! Next stop O-town."

State Football Official commented on December 10, 2011 at 10:12 p.m.: report abuse

As relates to instant replay, it's great in college and professional sports, where the leagues have the resources to provide it, and the officials have the time and means to train on it. In high school football, it would never work for many reasons, including that it's too costly to have at every school; in fact, most games are not televised/recorded in any reasonable means.

As to trying to use It in the playoffs/finals only, It's not something you can just pick up in a day. If your not properly trained to use the replay systems, it's not going to work. Also, the officials all year long try to "call it like they see it", and to add pressure of replay in the late stages of the season would be unreasonable.

Finally, the NHSAA rules governing football in Florida prohibit it; so it's not even an option.

- A Football Official

Performance Athletic commented on December 10, 2011 at 10:14 p.m.: report abuse

PB Ref thank you for your post and i apologize for my comments that disrepct anyone from Palm Beach County. You are most certainly a man of integrity and i commend and aplaud you for taking on a hobby that brings nothing but complaints and accusations from poor sportsmen.

Jeff commented on December 10, 2011 at 10:17 p.m.: report abuse

Great Post regarding the officials. I just watched a great game as Bolles School scored 21 unanswered points and outlasted Miami Washington 33-25. The officials in this game never were disputed. I wish I had film of the Dwyer-Manatee Game if anyone has copy of game film please make it available. Washington had a chance with the ball on 2 yard line but could not punch it in. I predicted a Bolles win. 10 Championships for Corky not bad. Please I want to see the film of Manatee/Dwyer someone post it so we all can see if Officials missed or mistaked calls.

USF commented on December 10, 2011 at 10:21 p.m.: report abuse

Luckily, Dwyer won't have that #51 kid next year, because he was holding almost every play. Those "pro-Manatee refs" called PI against the Hurricanes on 3rd and goal (which set up TD #1), and a bogus roughing the passer on a would-be 3rd and 15 (which set up TD #2); and those were the ONLY scores Dwyer had. Manatee outplayed Dwyer all night. Next year, the Panthers should find a QB who can actually throw the ball and maybe a few WRs who know how to catch. You don't win a 7A championship by letting your QB run every play (ask Trey Burton, who is 10 times better than Bauta). Dwyer is lucky that Manatee left 12-16 points (without ANY what-ifs regarding penalties) off the board, because you're looking at a 31-14 blowout disguised as 19-14 battle.

A Football Official commented on December 10, 2011 at 10:26 p.m.: report abuse

JEFF - although I have not seen the game, I'm sure the a careful review of the game will reveal missed or mistaken calls; they happen in every game. We simply try to keep them to as few as we can. The answer is that we don't have the ability to second guess a flag after we throw it; we "call what we see and what affects the game" - and the chips fals where they may. Every team in every season can find some calls that went against them and that they don't like. Simply put, every team - win or lose - has to accept the officiating for what it is. You cant cry over spilt milk

Oh - and to everyone who after the facts says "that fact flag at the line of scrimmage called back a 70-yd TD" - remember that when the official threw it: (a) he didn't know what the result of the play was going to be, and (2) it's likely that the result of the hold or other penalty might have been the "cause" of that 70-yd TD.

- A Football Official

Bradenton commented on December 10, 2011 at 11:47 p.m.: report abuse

Riviera Beach Shark.. Might want to take a look at the map again - it is 2.5 hours to Lake County from Bradenton...It is just outside of Orlando...I've driven it.

Defending Dwyer, to WOW, why would you be upset that a player put their heart and soul into the game - I respect the Dwyer players and any player who does that - we need more people like that in life. Regarding your comments, the MOMENT you leave school, unless you make a Division 1 college team...I don't know how it is in Palm Beach but in Bradenton we do look after the players after they leave school whether or not they go Div. 1. From being hired as a sheriff's deputy or by a private employer, the community respects the tradition of Manatee football and is always there for them...Former players often move back to Bradenton when they get married so that their sons can play for Manatee - next Friday there will be 3 players playing for a Manatee state championship, just like their dads did in the 80s and 90s.

RivieraBeachShark commented on December 11, 2011 at 12:06 a.m.: report abuse

HMFT!!! I see a whole lot of people suddenly - especially "officials" who choose to be anonymous making defenses, excuses, explanations, clarifications, etc. That's exactly what crooks do. If you are so innocent and only make $71 bucks a game for the thrill of enjoying your past-time, spending the $71 to get to and from your game (2.5 hr drive one way to Lake County), then just let all of us ignorant fans be that, IGNORANT. Truly innocent people would just let us ignorant people be ignorant and rant on!!!!!. I think all of you "officials" are full of it.

Observer commented on December 11, 2011 at 12:39 a.m.: report abuse

@RBS- your logic is circular, your arguments are dumb, quit disgracing the Dwyer community (and PBC at large) with your admittedly IGNORANT comments.

I hope everybody else can recognize how twisted a person's perspective must be for them to take a 3rd party's attempt at providing some factual basis for the conversation and turn it into a prima facie admission of guilt. There's simply no connection there.

RivieraBeachShark commented on December 11, 2011 at 12:48 a.m.: report abuse

@Observer... you obviously dont' know the difference between "circular logic" and "informal logical fallacy" because if you did, you would have expressed that I was exhibiting the later. If you don't like my post I suggest you put me on ignore, because you are the naive one who is IGNORANT.

Observer commented on December 11, 2011 at 1:02 a.m.: report abuse

It was also circular because you assumed the truth of your conclusion and then used your skewed premises to support it (e.g., only a guilty person would defend controversial events- the fact that a person I presume to be a "crook" is doing so proves my point). I suppose I was too caught up in the absurdity of your strawman to point this out to you.

As for ignoring, are you too good to take your own advice?

RivieraBeachShark commented on December 11, 2011 at 1:22 a.m.: report abuse

Uhmm...Observer.... we are "usually" and "generally" on the same side of posts...I would expect a little more "insight" from someone who understands basic logical reasoning....

For clarification...I used the additional information for formulate the possibility that the Lake County refs are crooks and got more than a mere $71. It was not an indictment on the provider(s) of the information or a formal pronouncement on all "officials"... However, the ranting part of my post would give a surface reader that impression. I thought most people reading this would not be so naive to just merely make surface interpretations of my post. So a surface interpretation would support the Circular Logic that you purported... In actually it was all fallacy. So.. yes, you did get too caught up in the absurdity....

Finally, I like you, am not offended by your post, so taking my own advice does not apply to me.... Goodnight.

Observer commented on December 11, 2011 at 1:46 a.m.: report abuse

Do you really honestly believe it's plausible that the officials who worked last night's Dwyer-Manatee game somehow received more than their game fee in such a way that the outcome of the game was affected? Is that an argument you're making?

Highway Robbery commented on December 11, 2011 at 5:20 a.m.: report abuse

@official. $71.00? Did you watch the game, they shouldn't get 71 cents. The thrill of the game? You must mean the thrill of screwing up the game. If that's the best you have for a game that decides who goes to the state championship you should be embarrassed to associate yourself with Officials in any way. Pop Warner have better Officials than were on that field Friday night, 10 glaring mistakes made in that game, all but one going against Dwyer. The Manatee fans who can't admit the bull that went on it that game are nothing but blinded, obsessed supporters.

Football commented on December 11, 2011 at 5:29 a.m.: report abuse

I can't believe Manatee fans are actually trying to defend the officiating. Unbelievable, I won't waste my time pointing out all the terrible calls going against Dwyer because these Manatee people are nothing but illogical crazed fans. "You can't handle the truth"

Alyssa commented on December 11, 2011 at 6:17 a.m.: report abuse

What won Manatee the game was the 25 free yards for unsportsmanlike conduct we received when the band blew their horns in a very loud, unfashionably manor. Without those yards, Manatee could've never won. Though I'm for Manatee, I know there were some stupid calls on Dwyer, but none that would have effected the game much. I personally think Dwyer is a great team and I hope to see them again next year!

TJM commented on December 11, 2011 at 7:19 a.m.: report abuse

To State Football Official-----How do you explain the ending of last year's Dwyer vs. Cleveland Glenville game in Columbus, Ohio? And don't say the refs called it correct as they saw it, I will lose all respect for you.

Riviera beach commented on December 11, 2011 at 8:56 a.m.: report abuse

The sun sentinel had q very interesting article of the game. I read the post and sentinel and have never seen either take such a stand on a game. Both talked about the refs. Something I have never seen. One or two bad calls is custom in high school and good teams can overcome those. But this was 10. A little fishy most were o big plays.

What a Joke commented on December 11, 2011 at 9:08 a.m.: report abuse

it's only high school football....get a life.

State Football Official commented on December 11, 2011 at 9:48 a.m.: report abuse

@TMJ - I, like you, was surprised by how Dwyer got jobbed in Ohio last year. While I can't speak for the officials in that game, I would assume they got taken by the moment and forgot they're supposed to be impartial. That's the problem you have with the interstate games - the officials are not "impartial" but rather have a tendency to rout for their own state.

- A Football Official

CANE4LIFE commented on December 11, 2011 at 9:48 a.m.: report abuse

EVERYONE HATES YOU WHEN YOU'RE GOOD!
Dwyer was out executed, whether the officials called a horrible game or not! Manatee still got the job done when they needed too! Sandberg put the team on his back and showed why he is the best QB in ALL of Florida! Dwyer fans are almost as big of cry babies as STA fans and that's pathetic. Better luck next year Dwyer. GO CANES!!

Manatee player commented on December 11, 2011 at 11:06 a.m.: report abuse

@cane4life You're acting like Dwyer isnt a good team. Dwyer was a fantastic team. Rooting for manatee isnt a reason to be ignorant to every other good team.

GTRFan commented on December 11, 2011 at 11:32 a.m.: report abuse

Hey lames4life, so by “out executed,” would you be referring to Dwyer's 41% higher offensive production in the game? And when you state Sandbag is “best QB in all of FL,” would you also say that all of the major recruiting agencies simply got it wrong since his status in “NR” (not ranked)? Even your own fans and local papers are clear on who the best player on the field was Friday – Bauta. As to calls, take two closely matched teams, sprinkle in some suspiciously timed and blatantly incorrect calls against Dwyer, and you have a recipe for some home cookin’. I have noticed ref issues in playoff games are an annual constant in FL HS football (until the statewide TV coverage of finals in Orlando). Then the games seem to be called so cleanly. I think FHSAA should draw refs from opposite side of the brackets (North-South) for playoffs – the increased ticket prices and higher attendance surely justify a lousy extra $100 or so per ref to travel.

Lmao @What a Joke commented on December 11, 2011 at 2:04 p.m.: report abuse

Best of luck to the kids of both teams in whatever they do next ahead. Dywer had their chances, and had tough calls go against them in an unfortunate way. Manatee escaped, good luck next week vs. FC

CANE4LIFE commented on December 11, 2011 at 2:29 p.m.: report abuse

@GTRfan-no by out executed I mean manatee got the job done when they needed too! i.e.-"sandbags" 21 yard rushing touchdown late in the 4th quarter, when Dwyer on the other had could not, i.e. dropping a pass deep in manatee's red zone on 4th down. That's how they got out executed. As far as officiating goes, there were calls that were questionable for both teams. I'm not taking anything away from Dwyer or Bauta, all I'm saying is that a "sandbag" got it done when his team needed him the most while Bauta was on the sideline when his team needed him the most.

Funny commented on December 11, 2011 at 3:09 p.m.: report abuse

Well, the west coast of Florida is now getting a healthy dose of the whiny, woe is me attitude that describes everything about Dwyer.

Guys, we've seen it for years. Believe me, by the beginning of next season, they'll have actually convinced many of the folks around here that they actually won that game.

Coach22 commented on December 11, 2011 at 3:19 p.m.: report abuse

@State Football official....If you watch the game tape you may feel the same way you felt about the Ohio game...that the officials got taken by the moment and forgot they were suppose to be impartial. Def get a copy of the game. Then comment. Look forward to hearing from you after you see it. The association in Ohio apologized after the ohio game. Wouldnt be surprised if there was an apology from Lake County Association.

State Football Official commented on December 11, 2011 at 3:23 p.m.: report abuse

FYI - The officials have been appointed for Manatee's 7A championship game, and they're coming from Palm Beach County.

- A Football Official

Fan commented on December 11, 2011 at 5:01 p.m.: report abuse

@WOW - if ignorance was money you'd be the richest man in the world!

ManateeTim commented on December 11, 2011 at 5:30 p.m.: report abuse

The refs for the game were from Lakeland in Polk County according to the press box. The one ref i have seen a few times at the finals which i havent missed in 17 years. I watched the game on replay on bright house. I dont know what the dwyer player said to the ref but on the replay of the fumble that was ruled incomplete looked like the right call according to the announcers. The fumble that was returned for a TD was way to close even after they played it over and over on TV. There were a couple of holding penalties that were called that were right. They probably could have called a few more. To say that should be taken out in handcuffs is a joke. There were close calls that went against both teams. To say the referees stole the game away from Dwyer is crazy or sour grapes.

sweetpea commented on December 11, 2011 at 5:51 p.m.: report abuse

Ok people it's hs football ok so dwyer lost but stop put them down and being so negative i went to dywer and ok yes they have good football team but if you ask me I think both schools did a wonderful job so it is time to move foward and get ready for next year. Happy Holidays!!!

wetwillie commented on December 11, 2011 at 6:46 p.m.: report abuse

@RivieraBeachShark, the officals were from LAKELAND, about 1-1/2 hours from Bradenton.

Richard Acton commented on December 11, 2011 at 7:42 p.m.: report abuse

FOR ALL OF YOU DWYER WHINERS: Champions overcome the officials, and do not place themselves in a position to allow officials to decide the outcome. Manatee has had it's share of questionable calls in the recent past in the playoffs. The bottom line is Dwyer had a chance to win the game at the end, but at 4th and 5 from Manatee's 30 (+ or -), your team failed to convert! Game over! STOP WHINING!

Jeff commented on December 11, 2011 at 8:29 p.m.: report abuse

Please if someone from the Media/TV or a Student Athlete or Coach has the Game Film of the Dwyer/Manatee Game please POST IT. There has been so many Posts of anger and disputes about the Officials its important for everyone to SEE IT. I have never scene so much talk of Anger. Please some one do this FIND the FILM and lets stop this ugly talk.

Dwyer Chick commented on December 11, 2011 at 9:06 p.m.: report abuse

You all are just sad.You don't have a heart if you're making fun of this.Obviously,you've never worked hard at anything in your entire life and had it ripped from you.Especially back to back!It's like last years game against Glenville.The ref's made bad calls and we should have won.Everyone knows it.Just like we should have won this game.Our football team worked their asses off so shame on YOU heartless,cold,tools that are calling us "whiners" and "sore losers".Get off your asses and go work for something as hard as you can that you REALLY want and have it ripped from your grasp.

Then maybe you'll get it through your ignorant brains.Quit hating on Dwyer and just accept that we won.80% of these posts agree that Dwyer got robbed.So quit trying to be "different" and go against the grain with your hater comments because you damn well know we won that game.We beat Glenville.We beat Manatee.We're the damn best team you've ever seen.

D-BLOCK FOR LIFE!<3 Love to all the boys!

GTRFan commented on December 11, 2011 at 10:30 p.m.: report abuse

Actually Richard, Dwyer DID convert on that drive. Unfortunately, the refs decided they wanted to make them try and do it twice. The flag on Bauta's TD run on that drive was so late that, if the flag were a student, it would have received a detention for tardiness! That's a joke, get it? Just like the calls that decided the game - a joke. These teams are pretty close no doubt - I say Dwyer wins 6, maybe 7 times if they play 10. But the bottom line, Mrs. Acton, even a great team CAN'T beat bad refs and a very good team for a full 4 quarters!

SAMMI commented on December 12, 2011 at 7:53 a.m.: report abuse

That's Sad Those Boys Worked All Year Dwyer Is Never Favored No Matter What && The People Talking Mess About Coach Daniels Just Shut Up He's A Great Coach Too Them Kids He Work Them Boys Hard && They Still Give Rerspect DWYER IS MOST HATED WE LOVE IT #RUDE NATION OHKAY God && All Of Us Know What Happen C/O12

Samantha(PANTHER BABYEE) commented on December 12, 2011 at 8:17 a.m.: report abuse

We Love You Panthers Sam && Ingrid We Made It Far Enough Everything Happens For A Reason So Keep That In Mind God Has His Purpose We May Not Know Now & May Never But Trust It's For A Good Cause & We Can Never Question God At That So Keep Your Head High & Sprits Up We Still The Best #RUDE NATION EVERYDAY! CLASS OF 2012 Great Season (All Smiles On This End)

Jimmy D. commented on December 12, 2011 at 8:40 a.m.: report abuse

Hold on a minute! I just checked to make sure... Yep, Dwyer lost... get over it, enjoy the great season you had, and now start looking and negotiating for the next crop of stud players to foster for next season.

@ Dwyer Chick commented on December 12, 2011 at 9:37 a.m.: report abuse

LOL.....I told you.....soon we'll all be thinking that Dwyer actually won the game. Just like they've beaten GC all the time!

Talk about rose colored glasses! Too funny.

Riviera Beach commented on December 12, 2011 at 10:12 a.m.: report abuse

The Dwyer hate is still strong as ever. First it was this team was not that good and would lose 3 to 4 games in the regular season. Then it was no way they beat STA. Finally, when they lose it's they underachieved. Well make up your mind already. The trueth is if they are hating, it is a good thing. It's when nobody is talking about that you have a problem. In the last four years Dwyer has lost 7 games. Three to GC and nobody ever brought up the refs in those games. Also the Armwood game last year, the refs were not a major factor. Now for the three questionalble games. Cleveland Glenville= everybody saw that game on national tv. Even ESPN said they were robbed on at least 2 of the calls at the end. 2. Plant three years ago= Now that was some home cooking. Ref took the game away from Dwyer. 3. Manatee= wasn't there but two usually none bias papers in the PBP and Sun Sentinal wrote articles about strange plays and calls. In the end Dwyer lost and that is football but all 7 games Dwyer has lost in the last four years have been close hard fought games. To beat Dwyer it is going to be a struggle and again that goes back TO COACHING!!!!! Great Season!!!! As most Dwyer fans know this was the year to beat Dwyer, the underclass is loaded, especially that soph class.

Neutral HS Fan commented on December 12, 2011 at 11:31 a.m.: report abuse

I understand the passion from both sides on this issue. I was at the game because I'm a HS football fan. On Manatee's first touchdown there was no way to tell what happened from where I sat, but a buddy of mine who was watching on TV said the Dwyer receiver was probably down. The non-fumble call on Manatee was actually an incomplete pass. I thought the call that really hurt Dwyer the most was the Unsportsmanlike conduct penalty that occurred when Manatee faced a 3rd and long on what turned out to be their game winning drive. This call was by far the biggest in the game--I'd like to know what was said to the ref on that call. But I did notice throughout the game the Dwyer players were constantly arguing every call that went against them, which I wasn't used to seeing in HS football. There were some bad calls both ways--bottom line is Dwyer still had a chance to win at the end and couldn't convert the 4th down so Manatee advanced.
I'd also add that I didn't like the way some of the Manatee players celebrated running all over the field after the game. After winning a hard fought game like that I hoped there would be more respect for the opponent. You can say they're just young kids but there should also be some class & respect at that level.

RivieraBeachShark commented on December 12, 2011 at 11:31 a.m.: report abuse

Im done with HS Football for this season. Sometimes, when the "establishment" is involved, there is not a whole lot that we can do about injustices other than expose them. Perhaps the FHSAA will at some point in the future establish more rigorous controls that will reduce officials abilities to act with partiality and also create a review process that is more than just token measures to show good faith. Ultimately, their credibility is at stake. On to basketball now....

RivieraBeachShark commented on December 12, 2011 at 11:36 a.m.: report abuse

@Neutral HS Fan:

I concur with your statements. The Dwyer Players were "uncharacteristically" argumentative. They shoulda kept their mouths closed and kept playing. I believe without that unusual conduct, they woulda won despite everything else... Looking forward to next season.. I'm out.

fb observer commented on December 12, 2011 at 12:20 p.m.: report abuse

Everyone says you should close your mouths and keep playing. Imagine if you had worked so hard for something, just too see it ripped away. I wasnt at the game so I cant choose sides. All I know is that if something on my job is unfair, I will speak up! What are we telling these young men? Hey you're being treated unfair, just play ball and forget about. Lets not forget that yes its a game, but its also important to those players. You've got to have passion to train in the summer time in this heat, lift all those weights. Remember you have a voice, let it be heard. One more thing, I havent been to a HS game once and didnt hear bad words from both teams. IJS

fb observer commented on December 12, 2011 at 12:25 p.m.: report abuse

By the way Hats off to AMH! All week I've been reading comments on FLAvarsity from Madison County fans. Saying AMH hadnt played anyone or seen the type of speed they had. One article talked about how shocked they were that the Post picked AMH. Now they know! They were riding on the fact that they barely lost to one of the top teams in GA. I wonder how they liked the whipping AMH put on them?!

Manatee Music commented on December 12, 2011 at 12:30 p.m.: report abuse

I graduated from Manatee in 82 and played Football there, 4 different kids in my family also played at Manatee. I am proud to be a Manatee supporter but have to say that the penalty's against Dwyer were troubling as a Football fan but thankfully accepted as a Manatee guy. Dwyer supporters have a legitimate grip about the outcome of the game and the Manatee guy who said they dominated the game must have been home in his West Bradenton House watching PBS when the game was being played. If anything the QB from Dwer dominated Manatee. Manatee is off the win the state title but as a Football fan I can not honestly feel comfortable about it.

Phillip Taylor commented on December 12, 2011 at 1:12 p.m.: report abuse

Please watch the game film and tell me one close call that you can say the refs missed that Dwyer people are complaining about. I was around the 40 yard line and watched the entire game. They showed the replay 4 times on bright house and even they could not tell if he was down. Of course last year at Armwood was the refs fault, andf the year before at Plant, and the game against the team from Ohio and every other game they have lost has always been someone elses fault but their own. Well we are playing for the 7A title while you all stay home and blame everyone else. Oh one more thing, even though the 2nd string quarterback was in, CATCH THE BALL!. Oh wait the stadium lights must have been too bright so that is why he dropped it.

R U Blind? commented on December 12, 2011 at 1:35 p.m.: report abuse

@Phillip Taylor. I watched it several times and the Fumble for TD and non Fumble by manatee @23 player were painfully obvious. I respect your loyalty to your school but it doesn't help our cause with guys like you denying what only a blinded fan could. Let's be above this as manatee fans and admit Dwyer got screwed and the game was poorly officiated and favored Manatee in almost every situation---It shines a better light on Bradenton annyway we are the ones playing for the title not them

Its Christmas time commented on December 12, 2011 at 2:28 p.m.: report abuse

Seems like there is a alot of concern about things that HAPPENED.....Its time to move on and focus on what is about to happen....The celebration of our LORD.

Jimmy Greek commented on December 12, 2011 at 2:58 p.m.: report abuse

Dwyer recruited everybody but an Official or two.....too bad Dwyer, start looking for a new bunch. This bunch couldn't get it done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Observer commented on December 12, 2011 at 3:25 p.m.: report abuse

"We won, but the officials took the game away from us." The same tired refrain loss after loss. I guess Dwyer fans are hoping Lenin was right that "A lie told often enough becomes the truth."

Let's not take anything away from Dwyer's hard work throughout the offseason, regular season, and playoffs. I don't think anyone here is questioning that (despite childish suggestions to the contrary). However, by focusing on the presumptive actions of third parties, people who claim to be supporting Dwyer are actually diminishing the efforts they put into the season. Besides, it's disingenuous to act like Dwyer is the only team who worked hard to get where they are; Manatee, and yes, even the officiating crew didn't get there by happenstance. Why can't we just accept the game for what it was? A hard-fought contest with mistakes on all sides. It's unfortunate Dwyer didn't come out on top, but that's life. And embracing a persecution mentality instead of moving on only leads to mediocrity, not a State championship.

Bull commented on December 12, 2011 at 3:38 p.m.: report abuse

@Observer If tthat is the results of hard work by the officials I would hate to see if they didn't work hard. They sucked

Neutral HS Fan commented on December 12, 2011 at 3:52 p.m.: report abuse

Observer, that's the best post I've seen. This was one of the most hard fought games I can remember and the truth is, either team could have won. Hate to have a loser in a game like this, but it wasn't Dwyer's night. If Manatee had lost their fans would be complaining about missed holding calls, missed FGs, fumble deep in Dwyer territory, etc. Let's not forget it was a great game between two great HS teams--unfortunately only one team could prevail and this time it was Manatee.

Riviera Beach commented on December 12, 2011 at 4:34 p.m.: report abuse

Jimmy the Geek, real original pal. How long have you been waiting to type that. Since week 2? As for people talking about number 1 Jonnie Dixon. The boy is a sophmore and a really good player. Remeber the name, this will not be the last time you hear of him. Jonnie and Clint will be the best wide out combo in the county next year and in two years the state. Future is very bright at Dwyer. Again good season. Hey RAIDERS, next year you come to the Panthers Den week one.

RivieraBeachShark commented on December 12, 2011 at 5 p.m.: report abuse

fb Observer... I agree with the principal of what you are saying. I just said that the reactions by the players of the bad calls didn't help. They coulda bit their tongues and then "politely" let them know how they felt after the victory and the game was over....

RivieraBeachShark commented on December 12, 2011 at 5:03 p.m.: report abuse

@Phillip Taylor... there is not one Dwyer fan that blamed the refs for the Armwood loss. We gave that one away with questionable decisions out of our players control. We have learned from that one. I am confident that if that scenerio presented itself again, there would be a difference approach to it....

RivieaBeachShark commented on December 12, 2011 at 5:12 p.m.: report abuse

@Observer.... you are an intelligent person... just a bit green... I agree with the spirit of your message. It's easy for you to talk the way you do when you are an AH fan who won it all... btw congratulations... I also believe that if what happened to Dwyer happened to AH you would not easily portray yourself to be so circumspect.

Observer commented on December 12, 2011 at 5:31 p.m.: report abuse

@RBS- you must have me confused with someone else, I'm just a local HS football fan trying to inject some sense into a chaotic discussion- I have no affiliation with or connection to any local schools, I just love the game. As for 'green', not sure how green you can be at my age...like I said, you must have someone else in mind.

As to the substance of your message, I agree, it's much easier to step back and see the whole picture when you don't have a horse in the race. I think that's an important function of people like Neutral HS Fan and I- to point out things partisans don't want to see or can't see because of their allegiances.

ChiWowWa commented on December 12, 2011 at 5:42 p.m.: report abuse

Officials should never change the outcome of a game. In this one they did, both teams were good but the officials were not and that was the problem. FHSSA should suspend the officials. I hope they aren't working a game this week in Orlando

Big Doggy commented on December 12, 2011 at 5:44 p.m.: report abuse

Good for you Manatee Music

Observer commented on December 12, 2011 at 5:51 p.m.: report abuse

Officials very, very rarely change the outcome of the game. Players do that by their actions. Officials merely recognize these actions as infractions of the rules and penalize accordingly. Unfortunately, a startling number of people tend to criticize the official's recognition of the infraction rather than the player's actual infraction.

Hammy commented on December 12, 2011 at 7:01 p.m.: report abuse

@Observer Very Very rarely? Must of been a rare night in Bradenton. The first TD manatee scored was on a phantom fumble and then they didn't call a fumble on number 23 of manatee when it clearly was a fumble---to add insult to injury they flagged Dwyer unsportsmanlike conduct (15 yards) after the Dwyer player was visible upset. That's a 14 point swing! Funny thing was the player was correct--too bad he couldn't call a flag on the official because that's who should have been penalized.

winnerandlosers commented on December 12, 2011 at 8:51 p.m.: report abuse

just FYI the ref come from all over the state. they are not just from manatee so get over it and good luck next year

Just A Fan commented on December 12, 2011 at 9:50 p.m.: report abuse

Why is everyone blaming the ref for throwing a flag just because the players were "upset"? How about before teaching his players X's and O's, Coach Daniels teaches his players the meaning of keeping their heads on and controlling their tempers. This will likely be a much better lesson learned for their futures!

He Hate ME commented on December 12, 2011 at 10:19 p.m.: report abuse

My goodness. Its Monday and 2 Full Days have passed since this Debacle of Officials. Its Sad and Funny but very interesting. Will the real Refs please Stand Up. I say lets Bus all the Dwyer Players and the FANS to Orlando and Protest at the Gate before the Championship Game begins. Dwyer Fans can sit with the Undefeated First Coast Alum and Cheer on the Bucs. The Jacksonville Based First Coast a Public School is going for History. 13-0 and looking to take it all out on Manatee. Lets not forget to do a little X-Mas Shopping while were there. If anybody is game lets get the Plan Going.

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RivieraBeachShark commented on December 13, 2011 at 6:58 a.m.: report abuse

@Observer...Okay.. perhaps there was another "observer" using the same tag. He had indicated that he had just returned from States during an exchange on Saturday. if you are the same person, I erroneously assumed you were an AH fan. Being "green" to a situation, does not necessarily have anything to do with age, but with familiarity with the ropes of the situation. If neither applies to you then I stand corrected.

Riviera Beach commented on December 13, 2011 at 8:58 a.m.: report abuse

I know it didn't effect the outcome of the game but in the sun sentinal article they write about the kick attempt by Manatee before the half. Very fishy as to why neither the game clock or play clock was started after the placement of the ball. That and the time out charged before the fourth and 5 play at the end of the game makes one believe something just doesn't smell right. Anyways it is in the past move on. You know you have a good program when others aren't saying you suck but rather making fun because you lost in the final four and didn't win state. Even though they won't admit it, THAT"S RESPECT!!!!!!!

I am still laughing commented on December 13, 2011 at 5:36 p.m.: report abuse

HAHAHA! DWYER LOST... and BEST YET... THEY'RE STILL BLAMING EVERYONE BUT THEIR MIRROR!!!

Very happy commented on December 13, 2011 at 6:30 p.m.: report abuse

I'm very happy to see that the officiating is being blasted 4 days after the game. It was terrible and cost Dwyer the game,I am a Sarasota resident who has watched Manatee....oh no need ,y'all know the deal now. The wrong team is in Mickey Mouse home town this week. Keep up the rants people it may force the FHSSA to do something about the officiating.

Frozen in Time commented on December 14, 2011 at 1:51 a.m.: report abuse

Next year and years to come with the new Playoff Brackets there will be plenty of time for Payback. Even with new players and rosters people will never forget. The Games have just begun.

Rico commented on December 14, 2011 at 11:09 a.m.: report abuse

Honestly, I thought the fumble could have gone either way. I watched in in HD, slowing it down, and it's still hard to say. For the pass play where Dwyer knocked the ball loose, I thought it was a great play by Dwyer getting there so quick to make it an incomplete pass. Later in the game, there was a big hit by Dwyer on a Manatee receiver where he lost the ball, then Dwyer was penalized for taunting. Dwyer recovered, but they gave the ball back to Manatee..., not sure why. The roughing the passer call on Manatee was wrong though.

I'm from a school that was too small for Football, can someone tell me what the rule is on change of possession? Doesn't the clock always stop, like it did at the end of the first half?

Also, there was a comment about a 25 yard penalty on the Dwyer band? Does anyone know what's up with that?

tlcdirector@comcast.net commented on December 14, 2011 at 2:43 p.m.: report abuse

You might find this article interesting....

www.wfaa.com/sports/Dallas-ISD-plans-UIL-protest-over-referees-call-135484058.html

Observer commented on December 14, 2011 at 5:38 p.m.: report abuse

I don't think it's the officiating that's being blasted five days later- most of the initial commentators were high on emotion and low on facts. Subsequent commentators have done us of the favor of watching the replay in HD and pointing out that those calls the first group thought were so crystal clear, were actually pretty iffy in slow mo. Fortunately, it seems like most of the Dwyer faithful are realizing this and curtailing their baseless attacks on the officiating crew.

Observer commented on December 14, 2011 at 5:43 p.m.: report abuse

Watched the Dallas Skyline video- is it me or are the making a formal complaint based on a complete misunderstanding of the rule (that it's where the player lands, not whether the ball crosses)???

Riviera Beach commented on December 15, 2011 at 8:54 a.m.: report abuse

The game is over and nothing can over turn that. However, I have now seen game footage and have a little more of an opinion. 1. The Malik Brown fumble. Both of his legs were on the ground and he was sitting up when the ball got stripped. Notice how Malik doesn't even seem concerned or go after the ball. He knew he was down. 2. The worst call of the night (and there was plenty) was when #23 from Manatee did a reverse and was lit up by Boone. The boy spun around and dropped the ball WAY before going down. Moxey comes in from the side visibly upset and gets a 15 yard flag. That lead to Manatee's first offensive TD. Again these players are not pros. So many bad calls had Dwyer not playing their game. They were way too emotional. But honestly you can't blame them, they have worked their butts off to get to this point and all you really ask for is a fair shake.

Michelle McCarthy (Minns) commented on December 15, 2011 at 5:29 p.m.: report abuse

Yea so what guys cried i mean they worked so hard to win. I know that people arent juding a man that cried because im sure yall would've cried if you tried so hard at something and failed at it. <3 I love you Mike im so proud of you <3

Rico commented on December 16, 2011 at 9:58 p.m.: report abuse

Dwyer would have beaten First Coast, Manatee rolls, 40-0 in championship game.

Canesfan commented on December 17, 2011 at 4:32 p.m.: report abuse

RB - Imagine, you with a little more opinion. 1. Sitting on the turf then stripped? You can't be serious. As for the player not going for the ball, he should have been coached better to play to the whistle. You must just like keeping it stired up. 2. The play wasn't a reverse, in was a swing pass that he didn't even have time to step up field before he was hit. No possesion. Did you watch those films with a bottle of Jack or coach Jack or both?
When I watched the televised replay of the game, I was struck by the fact that the coach had clearly convinced all the Dwyer fans that the officials were against them by the volumn of "boos" at the very first penealty call against Dwyer.

PhilA commented on December 17, 2011 at 9:29 p.m.: report abuse

I saw the same refs on one of the championships games yesterday on tv.

Riviera Beach commented on December 19, 2011 at 12:40 p.m.: report abuse

Your talking the wrong play. #23 ran a reverse and was 10 yards up field before being hit. The refs didn't call incomplete, they ruled he was down.

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